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  • pkson
    Apr 13, 12:05 AM
    Anytime FCP is brought up there's a *body part* measuring *stuff*storm about who's "professional" and who's not.

    Who gives a cuss?

    I think bringing down the price makes it within reach of students and hobbyists which might miff some "pros" but old editing hardware/software is... old. Just because someone has had experience in obsolete tools doesn't ever make the person "better."

    The pros should be the ones welcoming a change in old/complex UI. Better UI results in a better workflow, resulting in a better final product. That's the point, isn't it? Isn't that why the unveiling received a standing ovation from a bunch of pros?

    Computing has come to a point where most previous sophisticated tasks have become easily accessible. I personally think all these advancements should be embraced and not shunned.

    Oh, btw and FCPX looks awesome!

    edit:
    Editing can start immediately during importing of AVCHD and other media, switches silently to local media as it ingests
    Uses every available cpu cycle to keep things rendered. Also highly scalable. Will even work on a Macbook
    No interruption for rendering. No transcoding, EVERYTHING native. (incl DSLR footage–assume this means AVC)
    These features look like a real time saver and workflow streamliner! I, for one, am probably gonna buy it.





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  • Multimedia
    Nov 1, 10:17 AM
    Clovertons to run hot until 2007 according to:

    http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/01/intel_fwives_core/Oops! This makes me change my mind about buying this Fall:

    "HP, and other OEMs, should have Clovertown gear ready on the 14th. Our sources inside HP say the chip is eating between 140 watts and 150 watts..." :eek:

    "Intel hopes to deliver less power hungry parts in short order. CEO Paul Otellini has talked about 50W and 80W Clovertown parts set for the early part of 2007 (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/09/26/intel_quad-core_roadmap/)." :)

    Guess I'm gonna have to be a little more patient a little longer in that case. That will be after MacWorld Expo toward the end of January then. Oh well. So much for immediate gratification. ;) Looks like waiting for the 8-core to ship with Leopard will jive with the cooler less power hungry monsters as well.

    Thanks for bursting my bubble. :( I can get back to the business of another longer term wait similar to the wait for Santa Rosa or the mobile C2D MBP that's shipping now after 10 months of mobile CDs. At least it won't be that much longer. :cool: Looks like Clovertown Rev. B will be worth waiting for as well.

    My apologies to all who were negatively infected by my extreeme enthusiasm for the first Clovertown release before I understood this new information. I can wait. I know some of you can't.

    And I also may change my mind again when/if Apple releases a hot version first. Maybe they'll pass on the 150 watt models. Or perhaps they have real good cooling figured out. But I think I'd rather be ecological and buy what consumes less power anyway - especially in light of only another 2-3 months time.





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  • clebin
    Apr 13, 05:03 AM
    A reminder of Jobs' stunning hypocrisy from a year ago:

    "For example, although Mac OS X has been shipping for almost 10 years now, Adobe just adopted it fully (Cocoa) two weeks ago when they shipped CS5. Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X."

    Congrats on another Cocoa port, Apple.





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  • Rafterman
    Apr 13, 07:54 AM
    $199 would be OK for a high quality consumer editing package. But $299 is still a bit steep, unless you are a Pro. But if you are a Pro, you are probably turned off by some of the product's dumbing down. So I am not sure who Apple is trying to appeal to here.





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  • turbobass
    May 2, 02:28 PM
    I love how you all pretend like this is the first piece of intrusive software (Malware) for Macs or like there's no such thing as a virus for Mac...

    I'll just leave this right here...http://www.clamxav.com/

    if anyone knows a better one let me know, thnx.





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  • firestarter
    Mar 13, 07:27 PM
    Solar plants can be put out in the scrub, they don't destroy what can be some of the most beautiful places on Earth like dams do, and have much less land impact.

    We don't all have scrubland... or reliable sunshine! Can't see solar power taking off in the UK, I'm afraid. The same goes for most of Northern Europe.





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  • cult hero
    Apr 13, 12:14 AM
    Since I'm not a video editor, what I find most interesting about this product is the price. Mind you, time will tell HOW interesting the price is but if it's truly a "Pro" app (and I don't care about your current opinion on the matter since no one here has used it) and they're selling it for $300... THAT is very interesting.

    I'm curious to see what Lion sells for when it's released. I think Apple's gonna start pushing software prices down. How's that for weird?





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  • caspersoong
    May 3, 05:47 AM
    This won't deter me from getting a Mac. Ever.





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  • Steve121178
    Apr 28, 07:45 AM
    Guessing 2012 see Apple shift up again? Redesigned MacBook Pro's, retina display iPad 3..

    Doubtful. Windows 8 = large PC sales as people choose to upgrade etc





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  • jessefoxperry
    Sep 12, 04:34 PM
    is apple.com not loading for anyone else? it was fine before with the new content, now everything in the middle is missing. /itunes /ipod still work like they should. weird.





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  • bobsentell
    Mar 18, 08:47 AM
    Some of the responses on this thread are really amusing.

    The people who are defending AT&T's actions are either astroturfing shills, or dolts.

    Here's a newsflash: Just because you put something into a contract doesn't make it legal or make it fair. What if AT&T stipulated that they were allowed to come by your house and give you a wedgie every time you checked your voicemail...? Would you still be screaming about how its "justified" because its written on some lop-sided, legalese-ridden piece of paper?

    This is a specious argument because they didn't put that in your contract. Your contract says you have no interest in tethering, yet you use it anyway. So it's not AT&T that's doing anything illegal.

    If you think AT&T is doing something illegal, then take your dollars to Verizon.





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  • iGary
    Aug 29, 03:34 PM
    You know what I hate about crap like this?

    People read it, and then point their respective (washed in soap with chemical additives and toxins) fingers at Appple, because it makes them feel good. "Yeah, this Apple stuff is crap!"

    Then they go drive a block down the street to get milk from a cow who's waste runoff pollutes the local river, sit down and watch their TV with power generated from a coal-spewing power plant while eating dinner from plastic packaging that came from oil that was refined at a plant that contaminates the environment.

    Unless you live on an uninhabited island, catch all your own food and generate your own power, you have no room to talk. None of us do.





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  • iliketyla
    Apr 20, 07:02 PM
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)



    so glad you think stealing an artists work is a proper and moral thing to do, plz stay on your platform, the rest of us will take the high road and pay an enormous fee of .99 to 1.29 per song...geez

    Delving into this would drive the conversation in an entirely different direction, and I don't feel like going off topic. Pay for your music, it's your choice. I'll continue to illegally download mine and enjoy it just as much.

    I'll also continue to pirate software. Cry about it.





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  • skunk
    Mar 27, 07:46 PM
    If I've harmed anyone in anyone in any way, I want to hear about that from the harmed ones. Everyone here is welcome to his opinion about me. If anyone here hates me, he's welcome to say so publicly or privately. But I think I'm the only one here who knows whether I hate anyone. We're strangers to one another.I do not hate you in the least, but I do recognise hateful, dogmatic propaganda when I see it.





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  • aristobrat
    Mar 18, 09:37 AM
    What contract did I physically sigm when I got my phone? The only thing I signed was a credit card receipt.
    Where'd you buy your iPhone?





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  • Steve121178
    Apr 28, 07:45 AM
    Guessing 2012 see Apple shift up again? Redesigned MacBook Pro's, retina display iPad 3..

    Doubtful. Windows 8 = large PC sales as people choose to upgrade etc





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  • Chupa Chupa
    Aug 29, 11:10 AM
    This should be a Page 2 story at best. Let's be clear about what this bit of propaganda is... We know Greenpeace is anti-technology, anti-capitalism. They know Apple is not only a huge success story, but also has a big presence in consumer's minds. Everyone knows Apple and iPods. Clearly Greenpeace, like the iPod labor camp story before it, is USING Apple to forward their own agenda of killing technology and thwarting capitalism and innovation.





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  • Eidorian
    Sep 26, 10:29 AM
    Pardon Me But Would You Please Track Down The Link To That Card And IM Me and post it here? I need it NOW! Thanks.

    I will be on this thread until the Mac Pro Clovertown option ships. :D

    This is the Mac Pro I have been waiting for.http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2480

    I know they're making a PCI Express, DDR2, SATA II version though. Old news to me...





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  • iphone3gs16gb
    Apr 23, 10:46 PM
    Because we are smart intellectual people who believe in science and it's God given power :)





    blastvurt
    Apr 28, 09:09 AM
    So, we're looking at a decade-long fad that turned the industry on its head, completely changed the way we consume and acquire music - changing the face of the music industry itself, and which led to the next generation of mobile devices. This fad also continues to sell, though in lower numbers, because the other identical fad includes phone functionality and accordingly sells in record numbers each quarter.

    Some fad. Most companies would trade their established products in order to get in on some of these mysterious "long-term" fads that change the face of consumer tech. Would you like it better if we call them "ultra fads" or "super fads"? :confused:

    I agree, the ipod was a very sucessful line of MP3 players and made more buy PMP than would have previously (if we class walkmans and portable CD players as PMP's)

    The ipods rise and decline can be explained by something called the product lifecyle. Most products go through it. Here is a nice diagram to show the lifecycle.

    Ipad is currently in the growth stage, Ipod on the other hand is in decline





    mrblack927
    Apr 11, 01:22 PM
    The biggest hassle was keyboard differences for me. Some keys I use quite often like "home" and "end" are missing. Command, which fills in for control in most cases, isn't in the "corners" (first and last keys in the bottom row) so instead of using my pinky + index finger for things like copy/paste, I had to get used to using thumb + index finger.

    That being said, once you get used to it, it's not a problem. Like many others, I use winXP at work and OSX at home. You would think it would be confusing, but muscle memory is an amazing thing. Your hands eventually know which keys to use based on the environment you're using. You become almost ambidextrous in that sense. ;)





    macenforcer
    Aug 29, 02:12 PM
    The earth is going to end up a burnt chunk of concrete unless all construction and production of materials stops today. Its is never going to happen so just start looking for other planets.





    ElCidRo
    May 2, 09:05 AM
    so much for the no malware on macs myth :D
    funny how the apple fanboys are getting all defensive :rolleyes:





    emotion
    Sep 20, 09:44 AM
    Someone help me out here. Why do some of you insist on "tuners" in this type of device. What good are they for Cable and Satelite users? I mean, at best you could tune in the analog signals on a basic cable subscription, but most cable companies are all digital now and you can't tune in *hit without one of thier set-top cable boxes. Same goes for satelite.

    You don't have DTT in the US do you? In the UK we do. That is why people want tuners.



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